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Ammy



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The mind that does not understand is

the Buddha. There is no other.


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Chronic



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What is there to understand?

You Are

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So the answer to every question that seeks to understand is: 'Just be and be content with that.' Is that what's being said here, either overtly or between the lines?

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Not just be content, be beyond content
Its not settling for less just being content with your lot, its seeing settling for anything less than the infinite is not worth it, only being true will do so you find your true being

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dobro wrote:
So the answer to every question that seeks to understand is: 'Just be and be content with that.' Is that what's being said here, either overtly or between the lines?


The most helpful answer to each question is the one that will lead the questioner to see through the need for an answer to that question. When the need for an answer is seen through, the question relaxes and fades back into what is. And that's what we're left with, the same thing we started out with.

Consider an example. The questioner says, "Is there only one thing, or many things?"

The sage can be a butt and say either, "Haven't you heard anything I've been saying?! There's only one thing, of course!" or, "Well, here's a table and there's a chair. That's two so far," and leave it as an exercise for the questioner (i.e., a koan).

More supportively, the sage might say, "Well, if we look with the mind chopping everything up with thought, we see lots of things -- chairs, tables, whatever thought labels appears as a separate object. If we look without the mind, we see that there's no separation in experience -- everything is seamless. So we can see that whether there's one thing or many depends on how we look. At different times, we might want to use each way of looking in the situations in which it's most helpful. When you need to get to work, it's helpful to know the difference between your briefs and your briefcase. When you want to relax, knowing yourself as awareness can be very refreshing."

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The mind that does not understand is

the Buddha. There is no other.


doesn't mean to me that we have to stop understanding in order to become the Buddha. I think it's saying that everything is already the Buddha, including the mind that doesn't understand. "There is no other," is saying there's nothing else for the confused mind to be composed of other than the Buddha, reality, oneness, awareness, whatever.
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Ammy



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Chronic wrote:
What is there to understand?

You Are


exactly!!!

spirituality goes on and on

saying things as if they're important

what they're really saying

is stop listening to me

and just get on with your life! cool

which of course

includes posting profusely here big grin

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Ammy



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Chronic wrote:
What is there to understand?

You Are


here's what there is to understand

it's something I heard from Adya big grin

"if there is nothing but Buddha mind,

where are you going to go to find it?"

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“How similar was this Cartesian doubt to the Path of Awakening in the great wisdom traditions? Here is only one example, taken from Dzogchen Buddhism, generally regarded as the highest of the Buddha’s teachings. This is from the great Paltrul’s ‘Self-Liberated Mind’:

“‘At times it happens that some meditators say that it is difficult to recognize the nature of the mind (note: in Dzogchen, ‘the nature of the mind’ means the ultimate reality of pure Emptiness or primordial Spirit). Some practitioners believe it to be impossible to recognize the nature of mind. They become depressed with tears streaming down their cheeks. There is no reason at all to become sad. It is not at all impossible to recognize. Rest directly in that which thinks that it is impossible to recognize the nature of the mind, and that is exactly it.’”

Lesa Powell looked up. “In other words, if you think that you know Spirit, or if you think you don’t, Spirit is actually that which is thinking both of those thoughts.

(Ken Wilber)

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